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Posted by: WesleyC.
02-13-2009, 06:38 PM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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I took 4 videos the other night when we went to see Kathleen Edwards live.
She didnt have a drummer with her but the music was still ok.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlfKWleGm24&feature=channel_page[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4uKKPUQ-1w[/youtube]
I will post the other 2 when I upload them.
Enjoy

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Posted by: Tthip
02-13-2009, 04:14 PM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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Looks pretty cool:
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Posted by: The Horrible Esthete
02-13-2009, 12:18 PM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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Runaway Stimulus
By George F. Will
Thursday, February 12, 2009

The president, convinced that the only thing America has to fear is an insufficiency of fear, has warned that "disaster" and "catastrophe" are the certain alternatives to swift passage of the stimulus legislation. One marvels at his certitude more than one envies his custody of this adventure.

Certitude of one flavor or another is never entirely out of fashion in Washington. Thirty years ago, some conservatives were certain that their tax cuts would be so stimulative that they would be completely self-financing. Today, some liberals are certain that the spending they favor -- on green jobs, infrastructure and everything else -- will completely pay for itself. For liberals, "stimulus spending" is a classification that no longer classifies: All spending is, they are certain, necessarily stimulative.

At Yale's 1962 commencement, President John Kennedy expressed Washington's recurring confidence in the ability to supplant politics with expertise. As is traditional, Kennedy deplored "traditional labels" and insisted that "differences today" involve not clashes of principles but only "matters of degree." Kennedy argued that "the practical management of a modern economy" is "basically an administrative or executive problem." Congress need not intrude. Because policy issues are "sophisticated and technical questions," demanding "technical answers, not political answers," laypersons could hardly participate in the debate.

In December 1965, John Maynard Keynes, although 19 years dead, was, as today, enjoying one of his recurring resurrections as vindicator of government management of the economy by manipulating "aggregate demand." Keynes's visage was on Time magazine's cover, and the accompanying story said that happy days were here again and here to stay.

President Lyndon Johnson was embarked on building the Great Society, assisted by policymakers who, wrote Time, "have used Keynesian principles" to smooth the moderate business cycles and achieve price stability: "Washington's economic managers scaled these heights by their adherence to Keynes' central theme" that a modern economy can operate at "top efficiency" only with government "intervention and influence." So, "economists have descended in force from their ivory towers and now sit confidently at the elbow of almost every important leader in government and business, where they are increasingly called upon to forecast, plan and decide." Ten years later, the "misery index" -- the unemployment rate plus the inflation rate -- was 19.9, heading for 22 percent in 1980.

Today, again, we are told that "politics" has no place in the debate about the tripartite stimulus legislation, which is partly a stimulus, partly liberalism's agenda of social engineering and partly the beginning of "remaking" the economy. Gary Wolfram of Hillsdale College notes that the size of the stimulus -- the House-Senate compromise bill is $789 billion -- is just slighly less than the amount of all U.S. currency in circulation and is larger than the entire federal budget was until 1983. Yet it is said that in the debate about this encompassing legislation -- which concerns what government can and should do, and ultimately what kind of regime America shall have -- people should "transcend" (so says Larry Summers, the president's economic adviser) politics. What, then, would be left for political argument to be about?

It is said that the negligible Republican support for the stimulus legislation means that bipartisanship is dead. But what can "bipartisanship" mean concerning legislation that concerns almost everything?

John McCain probably was eager to return to the Senate as an avatar of bipartisanship, a role he has enjoyed. It is, therefore, a measure of the recklessness of House Democrats that they caused the stimulus debate to revolve around a bill that McCain dismisses as "generational theft."

The federal government, with its separation of powers and myriad blocking mechanisms, was not made for speed but for safety. This is particularly pertinent today because if $789 billion is spent ineffectively or destructively, government does not get to say "oops" and take a mulligan. Senate Republicans have slowed and altered the course of the "disaster! catastrophe!" stampede. Still, as Anthony Trollope wrote in one of his parliamentary novels, "The best carriage horses are those which can most steadily hold back against the coach as it trundles down the hill."

Not yet a third of the way through the president's "first 100 days," he and we should remember that it was not FDR's initial burst of activity in 1933 that put the phrase "100 days" into the Western lexicon. It was Napoleon's frenetic trajectory in 1815 that began with his escape from Elba and ended near the Belgian village of Waterloo.

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Posted by: fingernailsonhull
02-13-2009, 08:22 AM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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A small Dash-8 prop plane, carrying 49 passengers as Continental Flight 3407, crashed six miles short of the Buffalo airport last night. The plane was en route from Newark, NJ. All 49 people on board and one person on the ground were killed.

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The story says 49 died. They just updated that to 50 on the news this morning. This has kind of freaked me out - I'm flying into Buffalo today. Keep those families in your thoughts and prayers.

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Posted by: rowdy-raddi
02-12-2009, 04:52 PM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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Hey, i just got home from work, id really like to learn how to play Morning Moon, ill take a stab at tabbing it out but i was just wondering if anyone out there has beat me to it yet?

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Posted by: sean.bonner
02-12-2009, 04:41 PM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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Did anybody else watch this?
Was it a gimmick or publicity stunt? For his own sake, I hope so.

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Posted by: BDS28
02-12-2009, 11:45 AM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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A while ago, it could have been months, it could have been a year, I don't know... But There was some thread about the video clips you got at the Bathouse and you made a comment about how there was one moment when they were belting something out and you swore you would not forget it as it was one of your favourite moments in a Hip song ever. If you search back through my posts you should be able to find record of me saying to you "Mark this moment down and tell us what you were talking about when the album comes out," to which you replied that it would be impossible to forget.

I've been interested in revisiting this topic and waiting for the chance ever since. Do you know which song this moment is in?

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Posted by: rocketsan22
02-12-2009, 09:57 AM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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At the risk of sounding cliché...

This new Hip album could not come a BETTER time. If I look back on my life, the release of a new Hip album always seems to coincide with significant times in my life. Struggling through early university life alone and away from family and friends in the hostile province of Quebec with "Day For Night" and the inspiring opening drums of "Grace, too" to motivate me to focus. Living through the frustration of the ice storm and the ecological and psychological strain and sexual fumblings with half-strangers that kept us warm for 16 days of no power (32 days no cable was worse), and reliving it with a renewed optimism in "Something On" and Phantom Power. "Music at Work," and the summer camping trips with alcohol fueled sightings of "The Bear," on trips to see the Hip countless times in Quebec, Ontario and Vermont making me more home sick than ever (everyone has their breaking point, and I finally moved back home).

Now comes "We Are the Same" which could not have a more fitting title. My wife and I (who have been living the same monotonous lives for five long angry years) are still the same. Last week we decided to call it a day and end our marriage for the sake of our one year old daughter becuase we are the same, we have tried to change but we can't. Something on this album will resonate through my soul and become an anthem to navigate me through these tough times ahead...I know it...because the Hip have always been there for me when I needed them most.

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Posted by: Mr. Lahey
02-12-2009, 09:06 AM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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To start, it seems alot of us Hipfans will always hold the older tunes in a higher place than the new ones. Perhaps this is because we all got hooked on the band by listening to Road Apples or Day for Night. No doubt many of us loved World Container and found the new tunes great in their own way, but they could never stand beside our old favourites. I wonder if in 6-8 years, and 3 or 4 albums later, we may look back on WC, and think of it the way we think of Phantom Power or Fully Completely today. We may go to shows in 2016 and say "Man I wish they would break out Kids Don't Get it once in a while," or "I'd lose it if they surprised us with The Drop Off tonight!"

I'm not sure what made me think of this, maybe the news of the new album. I always feel a bit nervous when a new album comes out that it's going to immediately be compared to our old favourites and automatically it starts out behind the 8-ball.

I was thinking to myself that there are certain songs on WC that when played live a few years down the road, will have the same special place in the set that some do now.

For example:
World Container is like a modern day Long Time Running
The Drop Off has the feel of a new age Inevitability of Death

I'm not sure what my point is exactly, just getting the brain going on a rainy Thursday....thoughts?

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Posted by: Great Waiting List
02-12-2009, 01:27 AM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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Eat your hearts out. I can't wait. Better be a packed ACC show.

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