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  Question for us flying into Baltimore...

Posted by: kari
08-19-2004, 02:11 PM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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Hey all,

If we do end up flying into BWI (Baltimore airport)...what is the best way to get into DC from there? In the past, I've always had friends pick me up at the airport and we'd drive down to DC...but this time, that's not an option (since they moved, yikes).

I heard about the MARC Train...runs every hour into Union Square (??) in DC...it looks pretty cheap, at $6 a person (one way).

Is this a good idea...or does anyone else know of a better plan??

Any help would be appreciated...

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  Least Favourite non-EP, non-Live Hip Album (Again)

Posted by: akoso
08-19-2004, 12:33 PM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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I realize this poll has been made before, but it seems like opinions on the matter seem to have changed (either people's tastes have changed or the newcomers have quite different views). So if you think this poll is redundant, I warned you... so don't vote.

Also, I left off the EP, since it received 41% of the votes in the last poll (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://forum.hipbase.com/viewtopic.php?t=2880&highlight=album">http://forum.hipbase.com/viewtopic.php? ... ight=album</a><!-- m -->). I'm sure it would win by a landslide again, but I'm wondering what the results would be without it.

Also, it's interesting to note that on the last poll, DFN and PP (which seem to be the two biggest fan favourites here) received 0 votes. Although opinions of Hip music seem to be pretty varied, it's interesting that there is relative consistency here and there.

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  I,m back!!! I love you...., eh?

Posted by: Kevala
08-19-2004, 12:17 PM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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As Jim say's.... "Love me two times, baby..."

I came across a good article written by a bud of mine... Savitr Ishaya.

I think you'll enjoy it. It's a great story.

Its well worth the read 8)

"THE HOLE"

Jake stood by the hole. He no longer felt young: his arms ached, his back felt like a tangle of bad-tempered adders that had been tossed into a slow fire, and his toasted shoulders were threatening a blistery revenge by morning.

But he had done it! The Vision in his heart had told him to come to this specific part of his drought-wracked homeland - no sane person could have picked a less likely spot - to dig for water. The unmistakable pile of shells and cornhusks, dumped off after someone's backyard clambake, had matched the one in his inner memory exactly. And he had dug. And dug. And dug some more.

For hours, for days he had dug, propelled beyond the possibility of failure by the assurance that his heart did not lie. For hours and days he had endured the mockery of passersby, laughing through parched lips at this fool digging in the garbage dump of their capital city: Imagine expecting to find water in a refuse heap!

But his Vision hadn't told him he would find water in the garbage midden: it had said he would find water below it. And so he had dug, with infinite patience and one-pointedness, through layer after layer, stratum after stratum, of filth and litter and cast-off relics, giving them no more thought than he gave to the buzz of traffic in the distant city. And relatively shortly - amazingly shortly, actually - his shovel had struck first muck, then ooze, then clear cool water flowing abundantly from a subterranean spring. After a heartfelt prayer of joy and thanks, Jake built himself a modest little shanty next to his hole, then settled down to enjoy the fruits of his labor.

Soon Jake's "yard" was crowded with people who had come to drink from his hole. This was fine at first, for he was a generous person and saw no reason not to share his bounty. But then the quibbling started: those closest to the hole would refuse to give up their places, even when they were sated, as though proximity to the hole itself gave them some sort of divinely-appointed status; others were debating about whose drink had been the most pure, or who had drunk the most, or who was the most satisfied; one committee of oddly-robed men even approached Jake with a proposal to put a thick wall around themselves and the hole, with openings through which they could pass measured amounts of water to 'the deserving.'
The muck fights were the last straw. Jake had placed no restrictions on who could come to share his water; but as their issues escalated beyond self-control, they began scooping up huge handfuls of compost - the half-decayed excrement of their ancestors - and throwing it at each other. Even Jake wasn't immune to these malodorous missiles; but worse, hundreds of poorly aimed muckballs were finding their way into the hole and beginning to fill it up again.

Jake realized it was time for the next step: "Look, you folks seem to have forgotten why you're here, and you're screwing up a good thing for everybody. I dug this hole because my heart told me there was water here, and I also know there's plenty more to be found. So it's time for you all to stop wasting your time, and dig your own holes; maybe you'll learn to value the water as I do, as a result of your commitment."

"But Jake," they said, we've never dug a hole; we wouldn't even know how to begin!"

"It's easy," he replied: "I'll teach you."

Soon the refuse site was a hive of activity as the more adventuresome set to their projects; the less bold had simply taken what water they could and gone home, grumbling among themselves about "tainted water" and "control issues" and "cultic elitism."

The excavations began with a great deal of enthusiasm. The digging wasn't difficult, and Jake made sure that each seeker had the full benefit of his experience. It wasn't long, however, before early signs of discouragement began to set in:

"Jake, your hole is so splendid and your water so clear! And mine is so pitiful; it will never be like yours." --"Just keep digging. This is only your, what, sixth shovelful?"

"This is so frustrating, Jake! I just keep hitting garbage. Didn't you have some special way of pushing through all this?" --"No, I just dug. The three feet of garbage you've already excavated is hardly a major obstacle, but it's three feet you won't have to dig again."

"Jake, that person over there is digging through clamshells, just like in your Vision. I don't seem to be getting anything but cucumber peelings and old comic books." --"Those are first editions of Superman and Batman. Don't compare; just focus on your own goal. Um, can I borrow one of those?"

"Jake! Over here! Look at these biscuit-things I found: are they important?" --"According to this brochure that was under them, they're sample tidbits left over from a 'Flour of Life' Workshop. My recollection is that they're very tasty, but most people waste a lot of time trying to figure out how to digest them. I recommend you just keep digging."advised Jake.

"Jake, I bought every book I could find on digging holes, and I now consider myself an expert on all twenty-seven methods. I really can't say that your system has yielded any better results than the others." --"You've also dug 27 holes, one foot deep. May I suggest that if you had dug one hole, twenty-seven feet deep, you'd be a lot closer to your goal?"

And so it went. To Jake's practiced eye, he could see that everyone was making excellent progress, and that the abundant source of water was there for all of them. But one by one they became discouraged and began to fall away. Many became frustrated at the amount of garbage they were having to dig through, as though the parched, rocky soil outside the dump would somehow be preferable. Some began to doubt that the water would be there for them no matter how deep they dug ("Oh, I just know I'll never get there; I'll be the last one, and I'll still never get there").

One excavator-turned-entrepreneur proved to be a major distraction for several others, by urging them to leave off digging and purchase solar stills that he had made:

Another group found a cache of jewels, evidently hidden in a dumpster by some thieves who didn't make it back to their stash before the garbage truck arrived. The new recipients were so excited by their find that they forgot all about Jake, their hole, and the water, and ran off to find a new hiding place for their treasure. According to reports that filtered back, they all died of thirst shortly thereafter.

In checking the records, there is some confusion as to how this story ends. According to one account, the Waterworks Department - still a major bureaucracy in spite of not having provided anything liquid to anyone in several decades-showed up in force on the third day and declared the entire excavation a hazardous waste site. Several mid-management types reportedly accosted Jake as the Chief Offender and strung him up on the crossbars of a broken and discarded goalpost, to the cheers of a hastily gathered crowd. The crowd reportedly contained an unusual number of drunk ex-excavators complaining noisily about the nonexistent blisters on their hands.

Another account states just as certainly that Jake's crew simply kept digging, until the infilling water dissolved the walls of each individual tunnel and there was only one large crystalline pool, with a fountain of pure liquid beauty at its center. Oddly, the omnipresent garbage is reputed to have disappeared entirely, or to have transformed into the verdant foliage and animal life that (reportedly) appeared overnight. Jake and his fellow 'garbage-divers,' as they were mockingly called, were last seen sporting joyously in the abounding (one could almost say - infinite?) waters: in the next instant, nobody was there at all.

A third account simply records the two previous stories, and cryptically states there is no difference. Well, Well, dear reader, is that too deep? Or do you dig?

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  Nautical Disaster lead tabs

Posted by: Bryse Eayo
08-19-2004, 12:01 PM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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Has anyone tabbed the lead/solo guitar from Nautical Disaster? I can only find the chords.


EDIT: Well now after looking I can't find any Bass tabs.. so would theer be any who's hiding either of these?

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  nicest hip shirt I've seen

Posted by: bauer
08-19-2004, 10:47 AM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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This is one incredible shirt. any ideas where it is from? which year, which tour?

<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2328&item=3833993549&rd=1">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 93549&rd=1</a><!-- m -->

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  PJ Tix

Posted by: kari
08-19-2004, 10:16 AM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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Okay...my friend ended up with great seats for the Pearl Jam show in Kissimmee...pre-sale was today. She was telling me about it...but what I found WEIRD was that they made her (TM, PJ, who knows WHO made this rule) enter in her occupation, since it's such a political show. How messed up is that?? So what, if they don't like what you do, do they renig the tix on you?? Strange...

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  TicketBastard strikes again!

Posted by: john cage
08-19-2004, 10:11 AM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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Cleveland:
ticket: $26.50
"convenience" charge: $7.70
order processing charge: $4.10

The extra charges are 44% of the ticket price! I expect the opc covers their cost, so we pay a "convenience" for TB to make a 29% profit!!

In comparison,

DC (using tickets.com):
ticket: $25.00
service charge: $5.50
shipping: $3.25

Extras are 35% of ticket price. SC is 22% (probably all profit). Still criminal, but at least lower than TB.

Nice business model. I wish I could get into some racket like this.

Also, I thought Cleveland was in the eastern time zone. According to TB's on sale time, it's in some new zone between eastern and central. You learn something new every day.

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  Another IBE Review

Posted by: Tthip
08-19-2004, 09:51 AM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.tinymixtapes.com/musicreviews/t/tragically_hip.htm">http://www.tinymixtapes.com/musicreview ... ly_hip.htm</a><!-- m -->

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  ~~ Some Final Accounting - Phantom Power Notes ~~

Posted by: lord brazle
08-19-2004, 08:51 AM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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The Tragically Hip – Phantom Power
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Take what you will of this... ignore it, add to it, cherish it, whatever
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For those who don’t already know, the cover for this is a piece of Air Force flight line-testing equipment. I looked and looked and then looked some more but I’m not big on this area of information. Anybody find anything on the actual device?

Anyway, "Phantom powering" is a method of providing power to microphones by applying a voltage to the same wires that carry the audio signals.

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You might recognize this from PP tour posters... not exactly that but the same....

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The Image Of The Eye In The Palm Of The Hand

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“What does it mean? The pancultural Eye-in-Hand icon manifests the integral and interactive bond between two essential human functions: sensing/observation (the Eye) and doing/acting (the Hand). Together these two abilities represent the most effective symbolic condensation of the ideals of human existence - omniscience (all-knowing) and omnipotence (all-powerful) - in a very simple two-part icon: the Eye in the Hand.”

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[Image: yellowmoontriptych7.jpg]
(features the eye in the palm, not really clearly though...)

Cover art by Tony Fitzpatrick
Yellow Moon (1989) by The Neville Brothers

Produced by Daniel Lanois

A&M CD 75021 5240 2
A&M LP 75021 5240 1

Tony Fitzpatrick lives in Chicago and has shown his paintings, drawings, and etchings extensively across the country. He is also a poet, author ( Dirty Boulevard ), actor and radio host, and is represented by Janet Fleisher Gallery in Philadelphia.

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The Kabbalah

“Kabbalah is an aspect of Jewish mysticism. It consists of a large body of speculation on the nature of divinity, the creation, the origin and fate of the soul, and the role of human beings. It consists also of meditative, devotional, mystical and magical practices which were taught only to a select few and for this reason Kabbalah is regarded as an esoteric offshoot of Judaism. Some aspects of Kabbalah have been studied and used by non-Jews for several hundred years”

“The word "Kabbalah" is derived from the root "to receive, to accept", and in many cases is used synonymously with "tradition".”

“The Jewish mystical doctrine known as "Kabbalah" (="Tradition") is distinguished by its theory of ten creative forces that intervene between the infinite, unknowable God ("Ein Sof") and our created world. Through these powers God created and rules the universe, and it is by influencing them that humans cause God to send to Earth forces of compassion (masculine, right side) or severe judgment (feminine, left side).”

[Image: kabbalah_tol_s.gif][Image: kabbalah.jpg]


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Sacred Geometry

[Image: sriyantm.gif]
Look familiar?

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“a diagram of the continuous process of Creative Generation”
From Rawson, “The Art Of Tantra”

“A geometric power symbol. The ancient yogis of India considered it to be the most powerful of all known geometric power symbols. Represents the geometric structure of the sound of creation—OM.”

“Meditation on the Sri Yantra will bring enlightenment and that all the secrets of the universe will be revealed to the person who meditates on it until its image is engraved in the mind. This form also has the ability to focus, balance and increase the level of life force energy. The key is experiencing Sri Yantra as a “star gate” to the Zero Point of Source from which all manifestation ultimately comes."

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“The term "sacred geometry" is used by archaeologists, anthropologists, and geometricians to encompass the religious, philosohical, and spiritual beliefs that have sprung up around geometry in various cultures during the course of human history. It is a catch-all term covering Pythagorean geometry and neo-Platonic gometry, as well as the perceived relationships between organic curves and logarithmic curves.”

“Sacred Geometry is the blueprint of Creation and the genesis of all form. It is an ancient science that explores and explains the energy patterns that create and unify all things and reveals the precise way that the energy of Creation organizes itself. On every scale, every natural pattern of growth or movement conforms inevitably to one or more geometric shapes.”

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Alchemy

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Symbols from CD Booklet

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A sign for aqua regia or agua regalis, Latin for king's water. Aqua regia was a mixture of three parts concentrated hydrochloric acid to one part concentrated nitric acid. It was used by the alchemists to dissolve gold. Gold was different from the other metals, for it withstood the usual acids and other dissolvants.

or

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This is the most common graph for the sign of Capricorn, the Goat. The sign was used in alchemy to denote fermentatio, i.e. the process of fermentation

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The graph for the zodiac sign Libra, the Scales. The sun enters this part of the zodiac sometime around September 23, and exits somewhere near October 22. The signs have been used in alchemy to signify sublimate, i.e. the result of a sublimation. The process of sublimation in alchemy consists of heating up a substance until it is transformed into a gas. Afterward the gas is cooled so that the substance once again becomes solid, but without passing through the liquid stage.

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This graph is a different signs for the moon's south node. See the above entry for data about the nodes of the moon. According to astrology the south node in the natal chart is associated with sacrifices and efforts that life demands without giving anything in return. Both the north and south nodes are associated with blood ties and sexual contacts that lead to childbirth.

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  Official Unofficial Cleveland Thread

Posted by: akoso
08-19-2004, 08:44 AM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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I saw there was another thread about Cleveland, but I thought I'd start another one just for people going to the Cleveland show, details of the venue/city, meeting people, etc.

I'm hoping to buy my tickets in about 15 mins. I've never been down to Cleveland before. I'll probably be leaving from London (maybe Toronto), but Mapquest says it's the same distance from either city. It says it's just under a 5 hr drive. For those that have been down there before, does that sound about right (assuming the border isn't horrendous)?

Who all is going?

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