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i love the NOIS version on the Nautical Disaster single...it really sounds like a band full of confidence...we hear early renditions of fire in the hole, and ND, and of course the 'beauty will save the world won't it"...brilliant...anybody else have thoughts on this version? it kind of gets overlooked to my thinking due to the other versions of NOIS we all know and love

pride would never set foot in paradise would it...
beauty will save the world won't it?
enthusiasm does conquer all doesn't it?

So Im laid-off from work right now, and its raining buckets today, if thats not a case for boredom (or alcoholism) I dont know what is. :wink:

So to try and keep sane, Ive been playing online games like crazy lately. Poker, pool etc.. but I came across this today and its quite addictive

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see how many dingers you can jack out of the park!! My best was 17.
(just click the mouse to swing the bat) If anyone has a good game site out there Im always looking for fun games to play. Here are my current faves:

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<!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.pogo.com">www.pogo.com</a><!-- w --> (the pool is really good)
<!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.holdempoker.com">www.holdempoker.com</a><!-- w --> (if you like poker, this one rules!)

Happy gaming :jump

Picked up the disc this morning and I've been listening to it all day. Another fantastic album from one of the greatest storytellers of our time. It's not as catchy or immediate as The Rising, and some of the tunes take a few listens to grow on ya, but once they get their hooks in you, that's it. He's got ya. This album is more about poetry and stories than rock n' roll. It's almost like a sister album to Nebraska and The Ghost of Tom Joad. Thumbs up!


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Hey,

Just wondering if anyone has ever been to the Salmon Festival, what it is like and all. Also was curious what there is in the area, campgrounds or hotels. Thinking about taking a road trip up to NF. Thanks

They didn't find any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
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Weapons Inspector Ends WMD Search in Iraq

By KATHERINE SHRADER

WASHINGTON (AP) - Wrapping up his investigation into Saddam Hussein's purported arsenal, the CIA's top weapons hunter in Iraq said his search for weapons of mass destruction ``has been exhausted'' without finding any.

Nor did he find any evidence that such weapons were shipped officially from Iraq to Syria to be hidden before the U.S. invasion, but he couldn't rule out some unofficial transfer of limited WMD-related materials.

He closed his effort with words of caution about potential future threats and careful assessment of this and other unanswered questions.

The Bush administration justified its 2003 invasion of Iraq as necessary to eliminate Hussein's purported stockpile of WMD.


``As matters now stand, the WMD investigation has gone as far as feasible,'' wrote Charles Duelfer, head of the Iraq Survey Group, in an addendum to the report he issued last fall. ``After more than 18 months, the WMD investigation and debriefing of the WMD-related detainees has been exhausted.''


In 92 pages posted online Monday evening, Duelfer provided a final look at an investigation that, at its peak, occupied more than 1,000 military and civilian translators, weapons specialists and other experts. His latest addenda conclude a roughly 1,500-page report released last fall.


Among warnings sprinkled throughout the new documents, one concludes that Saddam's programs created a pool of weapons experts, many of whom will be seeking work. While most will probably turn to the ``benign civil sector,'' the danger remains that ``hostile foreign governments, terrorists or insurgents may seek Iraqi expertise.''


``Because a single individual can advance certain WMD activities, it remains an important concern,'' one addendum said.


Another addendum noted that military forces in Iraq may continue to find small numbers of degraded chemical weapons - most likely misplaced or improperly destroyed before 1991. In an insurgent's hands, ``the use of a single even ineffectual chemical weapon would likely cause more terror than deadlier conventional explosives,'' the addendum said.


And still another said the survey group found some potential nuclear-related equipment was ``missing from heavily damaged and looted sites.'' Yet, because of deteriorating security in Iraq, the survey group was unable to determine what happened to the equipment, which also had alternate civilian uses.


``Some of it probably has been sold for its scrap value. Other pieces might have been disassembled'' and converted into motors or condensers, an addendum said. ``Still others could have been taken intact to preserve their function.''


Leaving the door to the investigation open just a crack, a U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said a small team still operates under the U.S.-led multinational force in Iraq, although the survey group officially disbanded earlier this month. Those staying on continue to examine documents and follow up any reports of weapons of mass destruction.


In a statement accompanying the final installment, Duelfer said any surprise discovery would be most likely in the biological weapons area because facilities and other clues would be comparatively small.


Among unanswered questions, Duelfer said a group formed to investigate whether WMD-related material was shipped out of Iraq before the invasion wasn't able to reach firm conclusions because the security situation halted its work. Investigators were focusing on transfers from Iraq to Syria.


The questioning of Iraqis did not produce any information to support the transfer possibility, one addendum said. The Iraq Survey Group believes ``it was unlikely that an official transfer of WMD material from Iraq to Syria took place. However, ISG was unable to rule out unofficial movement of limited WMD-related materials.''


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TOP CANDIDATE FOR ALBUM OF THE YEAR 2005 SO FAR! HOLY SWEET MOTHER OF PEARL JAM, THIS IS ONE HELLUVA RECORD! EVERYBODY CHECK IT OUT!

i suppose i might be a bit biased because i <3 the COC (:mrgreen, but the reason I love them is because they never fail to deliver the goods, this album is a huge metal boot in the ass for today's sad state of musical affairs, best metal album since Down II, easily.

According to Carl Wilson at the Globe, the new pope would take a dim view of the Hip:

"He answered that question at the Eighth International Church Music Congress in Rome in 1986: Rock, according to Ratzinger, is a pagan tendency that "lowers the barriers of individuality and personality" and lets the listener "liberate himself from the burden of consciousness." In some quarters, that process is known as "kicking out the jams," but the man who would be pope said it makes rock "the complete antithesis of Christian faith in the redemption."'

Okay, then.

September
2 Fri Vancouver - GM Place
4 Sun Calgary - Pengrowth Saddledome
5 Mon Edmonton - Rexall Place
7 Wed Saskatoon - Credit Union Centre
8 Thur Winnipeg - MTS Centre
9 Fri Thunder Bay - Ft. William Gardens
11 Sun Kitchener - Memorial Auditorium
12 Mon London - John Labatt Centre
13 Tue Hamilton - Copps Coliseum
15 Thur Montreal - Bell Centre
16 Fri Ottawa - Corel Centre
19 Mon Toronto - Air Canada Centre
20 Tue Quebec City - Colisee Pepsi Arena
22 Thur Halifax - Metro Centre
24 Sat St. John's NFLD - Mile One Stadium

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looked like a great vibe from the footage i've seen, great crowd & wave of canadian flags!!!!

please share if you were

sorry if this has already been discussed



" I feel woodstocker-rific''

I came across this page today: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.octopusmediaink.com/TragicallyHip.html">http://www.octopusmediaink.com/TragicallyHip.html</a><!-- m --> (There are a couple of other articles linked at the bottom.)

I wonder if this has anything to do with the line, "I'm a cloud of octopus ink" from As Makeshift As We Are?

It may be a stretch...