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Posted by: chris
11-25-2005, 12:17 AM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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Invariably, at a concert there's going to be some jerk who won't shut up, or just plays the concert fool. Don't you wish that a performer would single out this fool, and tell him off. Well, here's a video of Matt Nathanson doing just that!

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Posted by: Thanato
11-24-2005, 10:30 PM
Forum: FAQ / Getting Started / Forum News
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Hello,

I live in the small town of Bobcaygeon, which might sound fimiler to some of you 8) anywho i would just like to say hello, as im new. And i have a question.

Does anyone know were i can find the TH Music Video for Bobcaygeon?

thanks

~Thanato

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Posted by: Stephen Dame
11-24-2005, 04:44 PM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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Excuse me if this has been posted before, Mr. Searchy says no, thought it was worth a read:

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I thought Jason Anderson hit it on the head, although I'm not sure he noticed. We love them because they are ours, they are unique and they subscribe to a sternly Canadian trait: style and substance.

How many times can you go with the "no-go-in-US" angle?

Anyway, a well written piece.

Our Home and Native Band
Why we’re attached to the Tragically Hip
By Jason Anderson
November 24, 2005

Take five: The Tragically Hip. From left, Gord Sinclair, Gord Downie, Paul Langlois, Rob Baker and Johnny Fay. Photo Richard Beland. Courtesy Universal Music.

It was shaping up to be Canada’s most memorable southward salvo since some British colonials burned down the White House in 1814. March 25, 1995: another episode in another middling season of Saturday Night Live. Though the show that evening was hosted by John Goodman, his buddy Dan Aykroyd had the honour of introducing the musical guests. As a native of Canada, Aykroyd clearly saw this as a golden opportunity to promote the biggest band in his homeland, a quintet of Kingston lads who’d already sold millions north of the border with their sturdy yet enigmatic songs. Surely it was only a matter of time and timing before America caught on.

The Tragically Hip’s choice of song that night was the first indication that the conquest was not to be. Although the brooding, lumbering Grace, Too is in many ways a prototypical Hip song, it can hardly be considered an instant grabber. The song relies on restraint rather than standard rock ’n’ roll catharsis for effect. And as is so often the case, the only real colour is provided by Bobby Baker’s lacerating lead guitar and Gord Downie’s strained yet indefatigable yelp of a voice. Devoted largely to the boasts and promises of a sinister man who’s “fabulously rich,” the lyrics are defiantly cryptic. “The secret rules of engagement are hard to enforce,” Downie wailed before SNL’s cameras, “when the appearance of conflict beats the appearance of force.”

“Wha?” said the masses, who heard a song that was miles from slick alt-rock or burly grunge and promptly turned the channel.

The SNL appearance gave the Tragically Hip only a marginal boost. Day for Night (the album that featured Grace, Too) was released in the States in 1995, but did not crack Billboard’s album charts; Trouble at the Henhouse (1996) made it to No. 134. Two years later, Phantom Power hit No. 142 and became the band’s last album for Atlantic Records. Though still a strong live draw, especially in the northeastern states, the Tragically Hip’s career — summarized in a handy new four-disc set called Hipeponymous — was fated to be a homegrown phenomenon.

Why that should be such a sticking point is hard to figure. Even though the Hip has shifted over six million units and still sells out the country’s biggest arenas, the band’s success is often regarded as incomplete without the validation of American record buyers. Confronted with this quandary in a Toronto Sun interview last year, Downie was frustrated it even remains an issue.

“I could do hours on this subject,” he said. “You know, why not? Why isn’t Canadian film big down there? Is Paul Martin big down there? Margaret Atwood? Who are you comparing us to? The Barenaked Ladies? Our music is entirely different. Nickelback? Avril? Because of the people we are and the music we make, we get the success we deserve.”


Hipeponymous. Courtesy Universal Music.
Listening to the two discs’ worth of songs on Hipeponymous — selected by votes on the band’s website, hence the name Yer Favourites — the big question is not why didn’t the band fly in the U.S., but how did such thorny, idiosyncratic music succeed anywhere? From the sweaty barroom boogie of its early days to the unrepentantly arty excursions on recent discs, the Tragically Hip’s music has rarely fit comfortably into rock’s mainstream. The fact that the band could become so popular reflects well on fans, who seem happy to accept any musical challenge the band throws at them.

That’s not to say the likes of Blow at High Dough do not retain a meat-and-potatoes appeal. The bluesy rock of the band’s self-titled debut (1987) and Up to Here (1989) was music built for drinking and dancing and fighting. (You can’t discount the latter. My older brother Jim used to regale me with tales of scraps that he’d gotten into every time the Tragically Hip played the University of Alberta. It was something of a tradition.) It was with Fully Completely (1992) and Day for Night (1994), however, that the band’s artistic ambitions became more pronounced. Songs were more likely to roam than burrow into a groove, though they still did an awful lot of that as well, as Grace, Too demonstrates. A patriotic strain became prominent in songs like Wheat Kings, a haunting number inspired by the miscarriage of justice that sent David Milgaard to prison; more than a few songs mentioned dead hockey players. Having made their live rep on extended versions of New Orleans Is Sinking, the band was now fully embracing its country’s mythology.

And despite the earnestness the Tragically Hip displayed in its early days, a dark sense of humour emerged, too. Even though the band was far too popular with the jocks to gain much favour with the cognoscenti, Downie was always too artsy, too flagrantly odd, to ever qualify as king of the hosers. The 1998 single Poets confirmed his egghead allegiances: “Porn speaks to its splintered legions,” he rants, “to the pink amid the withered corn stalks in them winter regions.”

“Wha?!” we replied, though secretly we thought it was pretty effing cool that such a Beat-like spiel could come from the singer in Canada’s biggest band.

By the time of the Saturday Night Live appearance, the band had already reached its high-water mark in terms of domestic sales power— tallies for studio albums would decline from Up to Here’s peak of 1.25 million to Day for Night’s 780,000 to 101,000 for last year’s In Between Evolution. Yet, the band’s ability to fill stadiums in this country has remained miraculously unimpaired. Nor has any other Canadian band replaced them in fans’ affections. With its reheated bozo-rock clichés, Nickelback seems as flagrantly American as Bryan Adams ever did (which is a lot). And despite the star-making prowess of Allan Gregg and Jake Gold, the Hip’s original managers, the duo’s Management Trust company did not accomplish the same trick with the Watchmen or Big Wreck.

Major-label Can-rock bands were not the ones the Tragically Hip tended to support, anyway. For opening acts, they preferred indie hopefuls like Change of Heart, the Rheostatics and the Joel Plaskett Emergency. If the Tragically Hip has any true stylistic heir among younger acts, it’s another recent tour mate, Winnipeg folk-punkers the Weakerthans. Both bands are fronted by sensitive-minded wordsmiths whose flights of fancy are sometimes compromised by the music’s more plebeian nature. And both find more reasons to celebrate their country’s heritage than to ignore it. (Not that the Weakerthans could be described as civic boosters; their song One Great City has turned the phrase “I hate Winnipeg!” into a rallying cry.)

Given that the Hip’s achievements tend to be regarded as more admirable than interesting, Hipeponymous provides a surprisingly colourful view of the band’s history. Because the accompanying booklet is largely devoted to a collage of old gig posters, weird illustrations and hastily scrawled notes, the set obfuscates as much as it clarifies.


Having a ball: The Hip's Gord Downie performs during the half-time show at the 2004 Grey Cup football final in Ottawa. CP photo/Jonathan Hayward.
The most surreal moment in the two discs’ worth of concert footage, videos and other audiovisual material lies in the recent tour documentary Macroscopic. Director Christopher Mills’s camera captures the band as they brave the wintry outdoors to take the halftime stage at the 92nd Grey Cup in Ottawa. They play Courage (for Hugh MacLennan), a song that may be even more beloved by their fanbase than Grace, Too (perhaps because it’s easier to hum along to). But who else but Downie would use an exuberant folk-pop song as a place to pay homage to CanLit giant Hugh MacLennan? Downie goes so far as to paraphrase passages from MacLennan’s 1958 novel The Watch That Ends the Night. The DVD cuts between the band’s live performance and an earlier stadium sound check attended chiefly by a gaggle of cheerleaders.

“So there’s no simple explanation for anything important any of us do,” Downie sings, his breath frosty but his convictions clear. “And yeah, the human tragedy consists in the necessity of living with the consequences.” Undaunted by the song’s fatalistic air, the football fans and the cheerleaders greeted Courage as if it were the national anthem. And maybe it is.

Jason Anderson is a Toronto writer.

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Posted by: tomsett
11-24-2005, 03:28 PM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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Thought this review might be interesting to post.

The Tragically Hip: "Lake Fever"
> from Music @ Work (Universal; 2000) & Yer Favorites (Universal; 2005)

On a pretty regular basis I’m made aware by one or another of my colleagues here at CMG of all the great bands I know almost nothing about. It’s the best part of the job, to tell the truth. Whether it is the dB’s, dEUS, or Bowery Electric (this year’s more memorable groups), there’s something great about just throwing yourself into a new band’s catalogue via the people who already know and love them. This brings us to my great confession about the Tragically Hip.

Despite being raised no more than 500 miles from the Canadian border, despite having an unhealthy inclination toward indie rock, and despite working for a website named after a Gordon Downie album, I had, prior to last week, never heard a Tragically Hip song. I’m really wondering why nobody saw fit to do anything about this earlier, ‘cause I’ve clearly been missing out. Here’s a band that sounds like a smarter Built to Spill playing Guided by Voices covers, except with a better front man, and somehow I’ve managed to make it this far without catching on. Luckily, with the release of Yer Favourites, a two-disc best of and part of the Hipeponymous box, other poorly informed members of my generation can avoid this sad fate.

I just sort of picked out the conflicted love song “Lake Fever,” a cut off 2000’s Music @ Work, as I was listening through the comp for probably the sixth time in the last three days. It’s pretty hard to narrow it down really—almost every single track has some fantastic turn of phrase, catchy little hook, or genius lyric—but “Lake Fever” stands out nicely toward the beginning of the second disc. The production is a bit too polished (in a top-40 backbeat sort of way), but once the band swings into gear there’s nothing holding this track back. Downie just drives it home with the fantastic lyrics: “Not trying to make you a believer / don't wanna a lil' piece of your heart / Just telling you a story about the lake fever / or we can skip to a neutral fury / You didn't say yes or no neither / You whispered, hurry.” Now I gotta get Scott to give me the full albums for Christmas.

-Peter Hepburn

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Posted by: The Heron Outside
11-24-2005, 03:14 PM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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No, this isn't a crazy request for the guys to come and do a show out here in Poland...

I've been teaching english over here for a few months now, and I was fortunate enough to land a job dj'ing a local bar/pub/club on Wednesdays nights...in a five hour set last night I managed to spin nine Hip tunes, notably-

Grace
Thugs
Vaccination Scar
Three Pistols
Cordelia
Fully, Completely
Courage (Remastered, shityeah)
New Orleans
Poets

It's great...I could never pull that kind of play off DJ'ing a place in Canada, you'd hear complaints of overplay...but here, they're an unknown, so it works....

I guess we've all got t'do our part...

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Posted by: fingernailsonhull
11-24-2005, 12:26 PM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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Stephen Harper rose today around 10:20am in the House of Commons and presented a motion, seconded by Jack Layton, that declared that the House has no confidence in the government. In all likelihood, this motion will be voted through on Monday the 28th with an election date being set for Monday 9 January 2006.

Thoughts and comments? Get ready to mark that X!

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Posted by: Tthip
11-24-2005, 12:08 PM
Forum: Download & Trading Central
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Closed.

"If You Lived Here"

West of here then yesterday
She's kicking up some dust
Patience aint a virtue babe
Patience is a must

A record of curt love letters
Find the writers words
She's dares me on the telephone
She says come on baby, who'll flare up first

If you lived here you'd be home by now
Anyhow, anyway
If you lived here you'd be home by now
Any day

Well I'm never where my heart is
Even when I'm home
Well not so much for the rambling
What is the being alone

I'd light up for anything
I'd light up all day
When I get my mind made up for me
If the sky's in front of me, get out of my way

If you lived here you'd be home by now
Anyhow, anyway
If you lived here you'd be home by now
Any day

If all or some of my indecision
If that's what I felt
Put it in a corner stored with lies and guilt
I may remember my living in pain
Well the road's the (?) some wondering

What you think you're going do
Where else you going go
I may not be the man you want
But I'm the only man you know

Well she gathered up all her jack-o-lanterns
She took em on out to the woods
She kicked in all the carved out faces of our little neighbourhood

If you lived here you'd be home by now
Anyhow, anyway
If you lived here you'd be home by now
Anytime any day

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Posted by: waters13
11-24-2005, 12:53 AM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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I purchased the Live 8 Toronto DVD as it was a great concert, I had a great time at it and of course wanted the DVD to keep for many years.

But I was disappointed when I got home and opened it up. Since it said Toronto on it I assumed it meant the complete Live 8 Toronto show would be on the DVD to watch. But no, it was just 1 or 2 songs from each artist. Why would they release a Toronto Live 8 DVD with songs missing??? I can see that not all the songs make it to Live 8 Live 8 DVD cause no one wants an 18 dvd set but come on it was specific to Toronto.

As well the dvd was labeled TORONTO!!

I said Toronto in my post only cause the dvd did but the show was in BARRIE Ontario. Why can't they say BARRIE it WAS NOT Toronto.

Ah well. Hip were awesome at Live 8 by the way, Dan Akroyd joining them was awesome.

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Posted by: chris
11-23-2005, 11:17 PM
Forum: Hipfans.com Tracker
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Clear out some hard drive space and get your burners ready as I've finished this Sam Roberts DVD and will be posting it to The Hip BT Tracker tomorrow.

Here are some screen captures to whet your appetite:
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Posted by: wpghipfan
11-23-2005, 06:34 PM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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Hey folks... RBK and the AHL are offering free hockey tickets to select games. Go here:
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I have an account as well, so if someone wants my tickets, you are welcome to them!

Rory

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