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Posted by: Shane Kroeker
04-05-2007, 06:09 PM
Forum: [Hip 64] - The Great Match Up
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Match-up #25 - Vaccination Scar Vs. Don't Wake Daddy
I ask you to listen to the two songs in the match-up Back to Back, and consider the lyrics of the song. Feel free to post an unbiased analysis of both songs in this thread, but please refrain from cheerleading or making predictions for your favourites.

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Posted by: inaworldcontainer
04-05-2007, 04:32 PM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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YER NOT THE OCEAN , entered the all Canadian radio [Nielsen Soundscan BDS] TOP 100 Air Play Chart for the first time. :thumb:


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Posted by: Inch An Hour
04-05-2007, 04:02 PM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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Is there a planning for, or a possible consideration of, a torrent being released with a bunch, if not all of, the past Song of the day songs? I get out to as many shows as I can since the Hip are amazing live, but what to do of old gems from the past that get featured for a day (or weekend)? I'd love to have them in my library.

Just curious if anyone's recording songs of the day or compiling some form of torrent maybe? Because they would probably make my year :mrgreen: .

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Posted by: Lizard King
04-05-2007, 12:14 PM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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Anybody else here love the Masters? I always look forward to it every year.

Predictions anyone?

I say Tiger takes it, hard to count Phil out, but I think Tiger wants it more this year.

You can watch a live feed through TSN:

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Posted by: Corpse
04-05-2007, 12:11 PM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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The new Rush album is going to come out on May 1 but an enhanced DVD-album disc is coming out May 22. According to Amazon it's an MVI disc that will play on dvd players/computers/games consoles but DOESN"T play on a cd player. Confusedcratch: I want to buy this but don't want to buy this version and the audio version.
Has anyone ever got one of these types of discs or run into it before?

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Posted by: cochise
04-05-2007, 07:49 AM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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Guess this was an April fools joke on her website, pretty comical

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Posted by: sean.bonner
04-05-2007, 05:23 AM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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Apparently I got fifth highest in the class out of 350! I thought my paper was good, but I didn't think it was that good. I figured I'd post it here, but for some reason it looks weird in the format... so I'll post my last draft before all the citations and APA format-ness. The content didn't change that much.

The course isn't boring... it's Music 2019: The Rock 'N Roll Era and Beyond. The paper itself isn't supposed to be two long... 5-7 typed pages. This is probably because there are no TA's, and the class is massive. Also, its not an English paper, and he said not to focus on format and English techniques that much, but rather content.

Here in a nutshell was the assignment: Pick an artist that was not covered in this course, and argue why that artist should be included in a course called “The Rock ‘n’ Roll Era and Beyond.” Pick one song by that artist that should be required listening for the course. You can use this assignment to correct any unforgivable omissions from the syllabus.

And here in a not-so nutshell is my paper (hope you guys somewhat like it):

He used to be the front man for arguably the most prolific and famous progressive rock group in the modern rock era. His perceptions that live performances could equally be as artistic as the music being performed made him a pioneer of the stage show, laying down the foundations for groups such as Kiss and The Flaming Lips. He is also a strong supporter of human rights and helped found ‘Witness’, a program dedicated to exposing violations of human rights taking place around the world. Not only is he a co-founder of the annual World of Music, Arts and Dance festival (WOMAD), but he also played a pivotal role in organizing the African stage for the 2005 ‘Live 8’ concert series. Although his solo career has not been as commercially successful since his departure from his first musical group, his artistic achievements continue to inspire legions of fans throughout the world. He has juggled all of this while at the same time, owning his own record label (Real World Records) which is dedicated to promoting world music. He has written almost every type of song imaginable, from rock, to electronic, to pop. The soundtrack to Martin Scorcese’s 1989 film The Last Temptation Of Christ was a project that he could call his own. It is for all of these reasons, along with many others, that I believe it is inexcusable to exclude ex-Genesis front man Peter Gabriel from this course.


Peter Gabriel began to earn his musical merit in 1967 when he met Tony Banks and Anthony Phillips while attending school in Surrey, England. The trio was soon introduced to Michael Rutherford and Chris Stewart. These five became the founding members of the incomparable group, Genesis (whom are equally deserving of an essay of their own). After critical and mainstream success with albums such as Selling England By The Pound, and The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, Peter found that his artistic abilities were beginning to be compromised for a more “mainstream” sound, and felt like an outcast from the rest of the group. This, on top of personal strain from being away from his wife and his newborn son during touring, led to Peter’s departure from Genesis. His intentions were made clear from the beginning: Peter was not retiring, but rather perusing the social and artistic freedom that came with being a solo artist.


In 1977, Peter released the first of three eponymous albums, all title simply Peter Gabriel. The first record, which has since been unofficially dubbed Car due to its cover art, contained perhaps Peter’s most recognizable single, Solsbury Hill. The song was about Peter’s departure from Genesis, and was intended to help explain to fans the reasons as to why he decided to take this root. These intentions are evident within certain lyrics in the song, but most obviously the lines, “To keeping silence I resigned / My friends would think I was a nut / Turning water into wine / Open doors would soon be shut”. Car also contained the songs Modern Love and Here Comes The Flood, which both charted within the United Kingdom.


The release of Peter Gabriel’s second eponymous record (unofficial dubbed Scratch, also due to its cover art), was not as commercially successfully as his prior effort, but produced two singles (On The Air and D.I.Y.) that held steady radio play overseas. Peter has since denounced Scratch as his least favourite album, due to the production of Robert Fripp. It is Peter’s belief that Mr. Fripp focused primarily on straightforward ideas and finish records in a timely fashion. This ideology did not parallel Peter’s, as he favored experimentation and some forms of improvisation within the studio.


Collectively, Car and Scratch represent a time in Peter’s life where he was striving to achieve critical and mainstream success, but it is with his next eponymous record, dubbed Melt, that Peter would dive into a completely new genre, not only reinventing his image, but reinventing the unofficial rules that were drawn out for rock and roll.


On August 31st 1979, Peter entered the Mercury recording studios in Bath,
England to commence work on Melt. Ex-Genesis band mate Phil Collins joined him for a portion of the recording during the Melt sessions, most notably for the opening track, entitled Intruder.


Intruder is a dark, and almost pleasantly terrifying track that contains Phil Collins playing drums which are electronically distorted (a sound Phil made famous on his track In The Air Tonight). As distorted screams and chants embrace the introduction of Intruder, it is clear that this album was unlike anything else Peter Gabriel had ever released up to that point.
The Melt is full of synthesized instruments, such as synthesized xylophones and synthesized bagpipes. These sounds add to the gloomy mood successfully displayed throughout the album. The synthesizers on the album are clearly influenced by the fresh new-wave genre that had exploded around the late 70’s with musical acts such as The Talking Heads and Blondie.


I Don’t Remember and Games Without Frontiers are probably the two darkest tracks in the Peter Gabriel catalogue to be released as singles, using new wave techniques for dark advantages. With allusions to Adolph Hitler and Communist Russia ( “Adolph builds a bonfire […] / […] Andre has a red flag”), Games Without Frontiers is a dark statement to war crimes, which is eerily heightened by Kate Bush, who sings the chorus at almost a whisper. The aural dimness of the first nine tracks, with its synthesizers and creepy vocals, cannot prepare you for the powerful and inspiring album closer, which would be my choice for require listening in the course.


When the sound of vocal chants from South Africa start, you quickly realize that you are about to hear something that you would never have expected. Diving into the realm of world music, Peter Gabriel recorded Biko, critically seen as his first solo masterpiece. Traditionally African drums, such as the ‘surdu bombo’ (played here by Phil Collins) are the only percussion used on Biko, and they are complimented by various vocal chants, as well as the lyric “Yihla Moja” which is in the language of Xhosa (it translates to “Come Spirit”).


Although the predominant civil rights movement with the United States had been over for almost a decade now, South Africa was facing it’s own civil rights crisis. ‘Apartheid’ was a system of segregation that existed in South Africa. It began in 1948, and was not officially abolished until 1994. It was designed to give economical and political dominance to the Europeans within South Africa. Stephen Biko was a nonviolent activist against the apartheid system who was a native of South Africa. He became the president of the Black People’s Convention, a predominant group at the forefront of these protests. In August of 1977, Stephen Biko was arrested at a routine police checkpoint under an obscure and outdated terrorism law that allowed police to arrest anyone who “endanger the maintenance of law and order”. Biko spent nearly a month in jail, until September 11th 1977, when police transferred to a prison run by white-supremacists known as Pretoria. Stephen Biko died in the early hours of September 12th 1977. Officially, the prison stated that Mr. Biko died from complications from a self-induced hunger strike. Stephen Biko was discovered with suffered massive head trauma, which the police would never explain. The five police officers, who were theorized to have killed Stephen Biko, were never tried. Frequent attempts have been made to convict them as late as 2003, but have never been followed through due to lack of evidence.


Peter Gabriel wrote Biko as a tribute to this South African hero. Peter knew that this would the most powerful song on the album, so he opted to put it last to contrast with the rest of Melt. Melt deals with “self-absorption” and “paranoia”, and Biko helps put not just the album, but life, in a broader context.


Since Biko’s release, Peter Gabriel has become a superstar of almost biblical proportions in Africa. Nelson Mandela has described him as his favourite artist, and the two are great friends. Although Peter has released other tracks, and even full albums of world music (Birdy, Martin Scorcese’s The Last Temptation Of Christ), nothing as emulated the impact and significance of his 1980 track Biko.


Peter later found huge mainstream success with the release of 1986’s So, under the production of Daniel Lanois. Although Peter captured the then-fresh sound of the late 80s, the album has not aged particularly well, although Sledgehammer remains his catchiest single to date, and the stunning music video that accompanied it still tops many lists for the top music videos of all time (including #4 on VH1’s list compiled in 2002, and #1 on MTV’s list compiled in 1993).


The 1990 compilation Shaking The Tree saw Peter come back to the African roots in the original track from the collection, aptly titled Shaking The Tree.


Us was Peter’s release from 1992, and it saw him attempt the same formula that made Sledgehammer so successful with the track Steam. Steam has long fallen into the realm of obscurity, but other tracks on the album have aged incredibly well, most notably Digging In The Dirt, which could perhaps be Peter’s heaviest song. Peter than took a nine year hiatus, in which he claims to have wrote over 200 songs in his time. In 2002, Up was released, and it was immensely successful in Europe, particularly in Italy.


Although Peter’s success may not be the greatest it North America, he still maintains a cult-like status, and it is impossible not to acknowledge his worldwide appeal and influence on some of the most unlikely listeners. Peter Gabriel is undoubtedly one of the great musical chroniclers of out time. With his history of modern world music and a track like Biko, it is gut wrenching to think that he is not included within this course. Peter Gabriel: The ex-Genesis frontman, the vastly successful solo artist, the artistic civil rights activist and a musical genius in the genre of world music deserves much better than an omission.

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Posted by: NegPhil
04-05-2007, 04:08 AM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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By SHAWN TELFORD
SPECIAL TO THE P-I


MUSIC REVIEW

THE TRAGICALLY HIP with the Sadies

WHEN: Thursday night

WHERE: Moore Theatre

Twenty years in and The Tragically Hip are playing like they're just getting started. For the first 10 years, the Kingston, Ontario, five-piece played it cool as blues rockers. Gradually, the band edged toward country-rock before eventually settling into a straight-up rock persona that culminated in the seminal records "Day for Night" and "Fully Completely," from '94 and '92, respectively.

For the next 10 years, the Hip steadily released albums driven as much by their guitar work as Gordon Downie's maverick lyrics. Though he likes to focus on the Canadian experience, the singer's stories run the gamut of possibility. In fact, his microscope seems to know no bounds, a feat matched only by his ability to subsume big, polysyllabic words into songs (pendulum, biosphere, vaccination), many of which have never seen a song before and probably never will again.

Yet, for Hip-heads, and particularly the lesser-known American variety, this was a frustrating time. Each of the five albums from this era suffered a professional malaise that belabored the Hip. It seemed that Canada's Greatest Rock Band was going through the motions. The root of the problem was drummer Johnny Fay who, for nearly 10 years, would do little more than keep the beat; his lack of excitement and general laziness haunted the band, keeping their songs locked in 4/4 time.

Thank God for Bob Rock, the studio impresario best known for his work with Motley Crue ("Dr. Feelgood") and Metallica ("Load," "Reload" and "St. Anger"), not to mention David Lee Roth and Bon Jovi. Rock not only reawakened the Hip but he pushed them to new levels. The resulting "World Container" is the greatest Hip album ever recorded. The proof was seen in their concert Thursday night at the Moore, a spellbinding, energetic and triumphant display of prowess, expertise and most certainly, an absolute love of rock 'n' roll.

Quintessential entertainer and dynamic frontman Downie was soaked with perspiration by about the fifth song. By the 18th (an explosive rendition of the bluesy "Blow at High Dough"), he looked as if he had just stepped out of the shower. His aerobic interpretive dances have always made a Hip show into a spectacle, one to be seen as well as heard, but Thursday night Downie was on fire. Not even his microphone stands could handle his vivacity; he went through two and almost maimed a third.

Rarely do the Hip play songs by other bands; in fact, according to my sources, "Sweet Jane" has been the only exception, but add to the list "Jumping Jack Flash," an apropos encore song, if not a summation of the new era for the Hip: "It's a gas! Gas! Gas!"

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Posted by: KD4FLETCH
04-04-2007, 08:10 PM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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Big Grin I was informed earlier today, by a friend who has a freind that works at Artpark, in Lewiston , New York , that the hip are scheduled to play Sat June 28, Sun June 29, and Possibly Fri June 27. Artpark Holds about 4,500 people with seats and lawn. If this is true, and its anything like last years show at artpark, we are in for another treat!!!!!
This is supposed to be announced soon. Has anyone else heard anything about this????????

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Posted by: mark
04-04-2007, 07:29 PM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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has anyone seen this movie yet? if not, you should go rent it.

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it is a movie by Mike Judge (king of the hill). it saw VERY limited release in theatres, and is now out on DVD.

Quote:Idiocracy is a 2006 comedy film directed by Mike Judge. It stars Luke Wilson and Maya Rudolph. A dark comedy, it features an "Average Joe" and a prostitute subjected to a military experiment in hibernation, from which they are to awaken in one year. However, they are forgotten and, instead, emerge 500 years later in a world where dysgenics and cultural anti-intellectualism have resulted in a uniformly stupid humanity.
in other words, idiots have taken over the world.

i laughed my ass off.

edit: here is the trailer

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