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Posted by: TLB
04-10-2004, 04:03 PM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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The Boys said they might let it slip today.

Going to break during the second intermission of the Tampa/New York game, Ron McLean just reminded viewers of the 4pm EST debut of Vaccination Scar and mentioned it's from the new album 'In Between Evolution.'

Is this the slip-up we were looking for?

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Posted by: beanmedic
04-10-2004, 03:44 PM
Forum: Hip Solo Discussion
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im not sure if anyone has seen this for a while or remembers it, but heres the transcript of the interview from The National on CBC

Title: Gord Downie's Book of Poetry

PETER MANSBRIDGE: Tragically Hip is one of the most popular Canadian bands ever and he is its charismatic front man. His name is Gord Downie. After years of writing best selling songs, he's trying something new. Downie has published his first book of poetry. It's called "Coke Machine Glow". Here to tell us all about it is The National's senior arts correspondent Laurie Brown. And this book is really selling well. What does that say about poetry?

LAURIE BROWN: Well, it says that Gord Downie can sell 18,000 books of poetry and that's reminiscent of the 60's when poetry was quite a big thing in Canada. He's selling like a Leonard Cohen book would've at that time. Now the only contemporary book that sort of outsold Gord Downie's is Michael Ondaatje's last book of poetry. So he's in very good company. But you've got to remember that Gord Downie also just put out his first solo record and marketing marvels, they packaged these two things together, the book and the CD together, so 10,000 copies went like that with the CD. But still, it's a remarkable book.

MANSBRIDGE: Now they tell me that in the book there are some of the lyrics of his music as well as the poetry. Now what happens when you compare the lyrics and the poetry?

BROWN: Well Downie says that he constructs the song lyrics very differently than a poem. He, like a song lyric has to do battle. It has to go into war. It has to cut through crowds, P.A., withstand the road and so that's what he does when he's writing a song lyric. Now the poems in this book are very different. They're very intimate, very personal and they tell you a lot more about Gord Downie, the man, much more than his songs do.

GORD DOWNIE: We're not hobbyists or dabblers anymore. We're hardcore, hardcore. We're hard core. There's a kid in the street, one up in bed, one on the hip, one on the floor. We might be one again but not like before. We're hardcore, hardcore. We're hard core.

(SINGING)

BROWN: Gord Downie has always delivered words with a beat to back him up. Strip that away and the song smith turns poet. Has writing a book of poetry changed the way that you think about words? Like the number of words that you use or do you think now in single words instead of phrases, and the sound of the word instead of an image? Has it changed anything about that?

DOWNIE: Yeah. Yeah, like I mean I feel like I've gone to school, you know, which is, you know, what I fully intended to do. I want to be a better writer. I want to tell my kids a few things. I want to show them me writing, you know. I want to tell my parents a few things. I want to tell the people I work with some things. My dad always used to say just after the presence, well, it's as far away now as it'll ever be. I'm thinking about that as the stewardess cracks the public address system. For those sitting in economy, there's no music for you today.

(SINGING)

BROWN: In print, Downie is much more personal. He's writing about his family, his friends, his wife and children while Tragically Hip lyrics are always mysterious. In the poems, Downie's reaching for clarity. He got some help.

DOWNIE: I keep reading about how poetry is sort of judged, a higher standard is applied to poetry than song lyrics and I suppose that's true, I mean, because I had an editor and I've never had an editor. I don't know any rock bands or lyricists, lyricists who have editors and perhaps that means that there, that they operate at a higher standard. It requires no help or, or no one cares enough, or maybe record companies have no money in the budget to bring an editor in on this project. So you have to kind of figure it out for yourself.

BROWN: When you see lyrics printed on a page next to a poem printed on a page, can you make comparisons and see the different styles?

DOWNIE: Oh, a poem seems to be able to go in a line. You can, and you can end up in a place that's very different from where you began. And that's okay. I don't pretend to understand the difference. I just know that it takes sort of like well, if you've ever ice skated or roller bladed, they seem very similar but when you step on roller blades after ice skating, it's like you don't know how to do it. And I find the difference is about like that.

AL PURDY: Of course, other things are also marvelous. Sunsets happen as the atmospheric conditions are right.

BROWN: Downie's been thinking a lot about poets and how they work over the last couple of years. How do you manage to keep your feet firmly on the ground with your head in the heavens? He found inspiration in the late Al Purdy.

PURDY: The woman screamed. The grain of sand will fall and the other side of the yellow bowl, a thousand miles away...

BROWN: What do you like about Al Purdy?

DOWNIE: Well, I like that he was tall and I liked the sound of his voice. And I liked the way when he wrote poetry, that it made you feel like you could do it.

PURDY: All day long, like a wedge of silver, the moon is tempered and forged in yellow fire.

DOWNIE: I feel like, like I know this guy. I gave the book to my brother as a Christmas present and wrote in the front, we know this man. And I think that most people that read him feel that same way. You know, and I've never really closed a book before after reading something and gone I love you, you know. And I do that a lot more because of him I think. And he'd probably like kick me in the nuts if I told him that. (DEEP VOICE) What are you saying to me?

(LAUGHTER)

DOWNIE: I have to do my little imitation wherever I go. Here we are on the highway. Here we are on the road. Here we are in the parking lots, pink Coke machine glow. Here we are in the bedroom. Here we are in the bed. Here we are beside each other after everything we've said. On records I, you know, take great pride and even joke about it but you know, to try and use a word that I'm almost positive has never been used in rock 'n' roll just, and it gives me, you know, it's ticklish. But then, you know, even that to what end? You know, what am I trying to accomplish? But I'm just trying to think of indefatigably cool. That's the song I'm working on now. Even if I am or was indefatigably cool.

MANSBRIDGE: He might be able to say it, can he sing it? What have the reviews been like on this?

BROWN: Well they haven't been great. But think about what he's done, really. I think he's done quite a brave thing. What he's done is taken a university course in a very public way. If his career, if his life hadn't been sideswiped by the success of the Tragically Hip, he would've gone to school. He would've studied this. But by getting a publishing deal, he's been able to use editors as teachers and learn more about words which is something he loves.

MANSBRIDGE: Meanwhile, with all this solo activity by Gord Downie, what does it do to the Tragically Hip?

BROWN: I think it actually makes the Tragically Hip better because now Downie says he's a better writer because of this. He's also gone and done some musical things that wouldn't fit with the really heavy beat of the Tragically Hip and now they're back in Kingston together. They're writing and working on a new record. All is well.

MANSBRIDGE: Okay. All is well with you too, Laurie Brown. Thanks very much.

BROWN: Thanks.

MANSBRIDGE: Still ahead on The National, this story.

JUNE BLAIR: They would purposely leave pornography in the towers strewn all over.

MANSBRIDGE: A look at the rough ride given to some of the first women to work at a prison for men.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

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Posted by: clearlyentranced
04-10-2004, 02:28 PM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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Darcy Tucker and Ken Klee are back in the lineup tonight. Get ready for some bruising..Ottawa is going down tonight.

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Posted by: beanmedic
04-10-2004, 12:45 AM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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whats with the recent wave of people thinking every hip song is about prostitution? i just find this a little bit strange. Confusedcratch: Confusedcratch: Confusedcratch: Confusedcratch:

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Posted by: Summiteer
04-09-2004, 11:38 PM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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Ahoy,on the homepage it says June 29 as the day? Where did that come from? did I miss the something? Confusedcratch:

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Posted by: mrlayance
04-09-2004, 07:49 PM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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I have had these guys in my playlist for weeks now. They have a great sound, kind of like Peral Jam.

Anyone else a fan?

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Posted by: thipfan73
04-09-2004, 06:03 PM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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OH I CAN'T WAIT!

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Posted by: TLB
04-09-2004, 05:35 PM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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I had planned to upload the Hockey Night In Canada video and audio debut of Vaccination Scar to The 100th Meridian but I am having second thoughts.

Would this intrude on what The Hip are trying to do with PureTracks? In an earlier post, Irish Hip Guy pointed out how Feldman's new influence on promoting VC is refreshing to see, and I wouldn't want to impede or negate this process in any way. But what about our foriegn friends? Unfortunately they don't have access to HNIC, PureTracks, or the plethora of Hip-friendly radio stations us Canucks do.

I am thinking of revising my plan for uploading VC. What would you all think if I made the video/audio available to just US/Overseas Hipbasers via FTP/YM/IM? As Canadians, we have ample opportunity to catch HNIC, logon to PureTracks, or tune in on the radio for access to the new single.

I'm at a crossroads because I don't want to interfere with The Hip's promotion of VC or rob them of potential PureTracks sales, but at the same time I know how they depend on fans sharing their music in the US and Overseas, and this would be a perfect opportunity for The Hip's foreign fans to introduce friends and spread their music to as many far-reaching corners as they can.

If The Hip are able to rectify the PureTracks situation to go worldwide by tomorrow night, I don't think my uploads would hurt. If not, I'm still unsure of what to do.

Everybody's input, Canadian or foreign, is eagerly welcomed.

(Afterthought: anyone around the world has access to radio on the Internet. There's a list of Hip-friendly stations on the Hipbase's Radio "Listen Now" page people could use to track down stations in time for tomorrow night.)

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Posted by: thedarkcanuck
04-09-2004, 02:38 PM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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does anybody know the meaning of this song?

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Posted by: CanuckCourage
04-09-2004, 09:55 AM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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Here are some exerpts from the interview Chancellor posted a link for in a different topic. Great find Chancellor :thumb: , alot of interesting questions answered . :mrgreen: :jump :twisted: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://ww.cfl.ca/HipLetter/home.html">http://ww.cfl.ca/HipLetter/home.html</a><!-- m -->





Q. A lot of bands are doing covers. If you had to pick only three songs, which ones would you cover?

Oh, and if you were going to cover an Elvis Costello song, which one would it be?


A. This is a really tough question to answer. We toy with the idea of pulling out cover songs every time we tour, but it's really tough to come up with a consensus within the band as to what we should play. Last summer we were doing Gordon Lightfoot's Summerside of Life because it felt so right. If the guys gave me the choice unilaterally, I'd love to play Iggy's Lust for Life (did you know that it came out prior to Trainspotting?) or something like Dead dog On The Highway or Circle Circle by the Sons Of Freedom. No reason, just really cool tunes that we could rip up live. I'd probably give you a different answer on any given day. Elvis Costello has written so many great songs it's tough for me to choose. I can 't really hear us doing justice to anything he's written. - GS

If I knew, I'm sure we'd do a couple of covers. Love Elvis Costello, but again, don't know which tune we d do. - PL

Black Day In July, Summerside Of Life & Endless Wire by Gordon Lightfoot and Almost Blue by Elvis Costello - RB

North Window - from It's Sydney or the Bush by the Inbreds, Tokyo - Bruce Cockburn, To Cry About from Miss America by Mary Margaret O Hara, It Wouldn't Make Any Difference from Something/Anything by Todd Rundgren - GD

One? No! - This Year's Girl from This Year's Model and Watch Your Step from Trust - GD

Q. Hey guys. What are some great books that you've read?

A. We have all read a lot of books. Books are good, television is bad. Among my personal faves are Bruce Chatwin's Songlines and Daniel Quinn's Ishmael. - GS

Whale Music, Being There, Armies of the Night. I don 't know, lots. - PL

A River Sutra by Gita Mehta, The Golden Gate by Vikram Seth, Not Wanted on The Voyage by Timothy Findley, Narcissus and Goldmund by Herman Hesse - RB

Vladamir Nabakov - Laughter in the Dark - JF

Q. There is no doubt that the Hip is, and always will be, a big band in Canada. I'm curious, if they never reach huge stardom in the States, will they still be satisfied with all there accomplishments in Canada?

A. We've always approached things one step at a time, one song at a time. Making music that continues to move us is our biggest motivator. After that, whatever happens will happen. We've been really fortunate that we've been able to evolve naturally and slowly over the years and that our fans have come along with us and have continued to support us, album after album.

We approach the U.S. the same way. Each time we put out a record or tour down there our audience has continued to grow. To us, that's being successful.

Stardom and celebrity are meaningless words to us. They have little to do with music and much more to do with the culture we live in. For a lot of groups over the years, stardom has been a heavy weight to shake off and has shortened a lot of promising careers for some decent songwriters. - GS

Q. Hey guys! I've been reading that you are gaining quite a following in Australia. Have your friends Midnight Oil helped at all by having you along for shows and appearances? Or have you just been plugging away working some seedy joints where Paul Hogan wanna be's work the door? How's the overall international market looking for you? Thanks from a fellow St. Lawrence Seaway resident (Brockville)!
Good luck!


A. Well my friend, there are two urban myths afloat in Canada: That we are big in Australia or anywhere for that matter; and that Brock Vegas is a happening place to hang out. - JF

Q. You guys are like a lightning rod for some people's patriotism. How do you feel about fans who identify you and your music so closely with some sort of essential Canadian-ness? Are you proud of that, or is it just an unnecessary pressure that detracts from the music?

A. We've never consciously tried to elicit a patriotic response from our fans, nor have we tried to embody that in our lyrics.

Speaking for GD, I can tell you that we've never tried to edit ourselves in any way. You write about what you know, stories that move you in some way, or about themes you want to explore. Over the years, we have written some songs that refer to Canadian events specifically, and others that reflect our response as Canadians to other themes and issues, because of who we are and how we've been raised. That's where it begins and ends for us. We'd never write a song because it was Canadian, nor would we avoid it.

If some of our fans can only identify with us on a nationalistic level, instead of a musical one, then I think that reflects more on them than it does on us.

Travelling abroad as much as we do has led us to appreciate where we live and who we are and I think our work reflects that; but we have definitely learned that there is no one distinct Canadian voice. All perspectives are valid, so we feel no pressure at all. - GS

Q. Who are some of the bands you guys like to listen to?

A. That's way too broad a question to answer. Every guy in the band has his faves, long term and those more of the flavour-of-the-week variety, and we're all very open-minded when it comes to music. Each of the other guys, in fact, has turned me on to great music of all different shapes and sizes. I listen to music every day. Right now I'm rediscovering The Cure, because I just saw them live for the first time this summer and I realised that in my mind I'd never given them the listen they deserve. I love Los Lobos' new record, Colossal Head. Turn off the TV and listen to more music, choose for yourself. - GS

Los Lobos, ODDS, Rheostatics, SOTW, the Inbreds, tonnes more. Anything good is the general rule. - PL

Old Faithfuls - Miles Davis, Bob Dylan, anything on Blue Note, Current Faves - Material, anything with Sly and Robbie, Lakshmi Ranganathan - RB
I won't commit the error of catalogues and lists, when it comes to music I'll leave that up to Maclean's Magazine. - GD

D David Bowie
G Gabriel
Z Zimmy - Zimmerman
D has already been taken, but Bob-O is great - Dylan
These artists are so mega in The Hip's mind that they have had their letters retired. Heavy plays on the bus. - JF

Q. I had the opportunity to hear a song called "Get Back Again", which I think was recorded at some CBC session. From what I've been told it was written by Gord Sinclair. Is this true? Also, what ever happened to this great song? Everyone I know who has heard it has fallen in love with it.

A. Get Back Again is a great song, and Paul and Gord recorded it at CBC with Murray McLauchlan and his band. I have always loved that song and have wanted to put it on a record for a long time. However, you probably like it because the other three of us are not on it. - JF

Q. How would you (the Hip) explain the style of music that you all play. Some say that it's a touch of jazz blues with rock.

A. I'd say we re a peppy little five piece combo of eclectic/post - modern/experimental traditionalists, or maybe a jazz/blues/raga/roots/rock band with a heavy metal/folk/rap sensibility. - RB


Q. Does the band have any plans of putting out a live album(s) in the near future? Perhaps even a live 4 CD box set (one can hope).

A. We are thinking about it (live album), just don't know when. - Band

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