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Posted by: Zenith
12-15-2009, 05:54 AM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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Hey guys, I like many of you I'm sure, really enjoyed the acoustic interludes at the shows this year. It's always cool to hear alternative versions of songs etc. So, I've started putting together a compilation/torrent which (I hope) to get a version of every acoustic song played over the 2009 tour.

Ok, according to the stats (big thanks to sherpa for making my life a hell of a lot easier!) these are all the songs played acoustically:

Boots or Hearts
Fiddler's Green
Courage
Wheat Kings
Greasy Jungle
Scared
An Inch An Hour
Titanic Terrarium
Ahead By A Century
Flamenco

Bobcaygeon
Thompson Girl
Fireworks
The Rules
Music @ Work
Lake Fever

Toronto #4
The Bear
New Orleans Is Beat
Are We Family
Morning Moon
The Last Recluse
Coffee Girl


The songs in Red are ones that I've already got at least one version of (although, I'd be open to offers of different ones if the sound quality is better etc). The rest are ones that I need versions of. I'm gonna trawl through the tracker to try and find others, but I'm making an appeal to any tapers which have versions of any of the missing songs which haven't been circulated yet if they could send them to me please?

I think this could be a really great compilation, and it would be awesome to get the whole lot!

Thanks everyone! :thumb:

Edit: Songs in Blue are ones that I'm in the process of downloading from the Tracker - Big thanks to Mr. Dave and markslog as they seems to have caught loads of the rare ones!

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Posted by: mrsardo
12-15-2009, 12:46 AM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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Mine:

1 Skeleton Park*
2 The Depression Suite
3 Honey, Please
4 The Last Recluse
5 Love is a First
6 Morning Moon
7 Queen of the Furrows
8 Coffee Girl
9 Country Day

*=originally a bonus track, but good enough, i'd say, to be prominently featured.

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Posted by: mrsardo
12-14-2009, 06:54 PM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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I've only heard this song live once, in 2003 or 2004 when the Hip were rehearsing some material for IBE as the fictional band THE FIGHTER FIGHTERS.

The song Fighter Fighter is pretty decent, has single-potential even - and gets stuck in my head alot, especially when
I've watching coverage of hockey fights - but has never been released, even as some kind of bonus track.

I'm betting on the next Hip album being IBE-esque, that is, rock/alt-country sounding with minimal studio trickery... a straight-ahead throw-back rock album, if you will (seems like the kind of left-turn the guys would take after two very-produced albums) - this of course assuming there isn't a Gord solo album released before the next Hip album, an eventuality which would shake up the dynamic I have in mind... Anyhoo... Just wanted to exclaim my love for this track. Here's hoping it has a future (especally for francophone fans, for those familiar with the lyrics).

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Posted by: BIGVDOGG
12-14-2009, 09:28 AM
Forum: Ticket Exchange
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I have 1 ticket if there is anyone that wants to go.Not feeling good Sad $40.00 send me a message and I will get back to you right away.

Edit - Any takers? Ticket can be emailed.

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Posted by: Zenith
12-14-2009, 08:40 AM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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I was reading the info file from a torrent on The Tracker (1996-11-08 - Vancouver BC), which said the version of ATHM from that show was nearly 15 minutes long. I know that they used to jam out NOIS for quite a long time in the early days as well. Recently (at least on the two UK shows that I saw) Gord's been ranting during ATHM as well as doing his crazy dance moves, which have made them pretty long. I was just wondering what the longest ever one has been? Does anyone know, or could make a guess. :thumb:

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Posted by: chris
12-14-2009, 07:45 AM
Forum: Hipfans.com Tracker
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A new torrent has been uploaded.

Name: TTH: 2009-12-04 - Dublin, Ireland
Size: 721.74 MB
Category: SHN/FLAC: Concerts
Uploaded by: chrisk

Description
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04Dec09 The Tragically Hip
Tripod - Dublin, Ireland

Recording:
Busman BCS1 K2 (Cardioids) > KindKables custom 4 channel XLR > Naiant BiggerBox > SlyGoose custom XLR cables > Edirol R-44

Transfer:
direct to Kingston 16Gb SDHC card

Conversion:
Originally recorded at 48.0kHz/24-bits
Dithered down to 16-bits using Fission
Re-sampled down to 44.1kHz using Fission
Individual tracks cut up using Fission
WAV MD5 checksum created using xACT 1.69
FLAC Files created using xACT 1.69
FLAC Fingerprint created using xACT 1.69
FLAC MD5 checksum created using xACT 1.69

Recorded/Transferred/Encoded by: <!-- e --><a href="mailto:chris@hipfans.com">chris@hipfans.com</a><!-- e -->

Freq.: 44.1 kHz
Bitrate: 16-bits
Time:

Notes:
Mics at 8' on stand, 2' left of soundboard, 60' from stage

Setlist
t01 - New Orleans Is Sinking
t02 - The Depression Suite
t03 - Poets
t04 - It's A Good Life If You Don't Weaken
t05 - Fireworks
t06 - Springtime In Vienna
t07 - Morning Moon
t08 - Family Band
t09 - Love Is A First
('Grace, Too' was on the setlist as the final song of the first set, but not played here.)

**break**

t11 - Courage (Acoustic)
t12 - Coffee Girl (Acoustic)
t13 - Fiddler's Green (Acoustic)
t14 - Gift Shop
t15 - Ahead By A Century
t16 - In View
t17 - At The Hundredth Meridian
t18 - Bobcaygeon
t19 - Fully Completely
t20 - My Music At Work

t21 - Grace, Too
('Frozen In My Tracks' was on the setlist as the first song of the encore but not played.)
t22 - Blow At High Dough

FLAC Fingerprint:
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tragicallyhip2009-12-04busmanBCS1t02.flac:b688616bd2d2f6e1df75d3ca0aca4c04
tragicallyhip2009-12-04busmanBCS1t03.flac:52abddbf03b694cd86ffd1edcfc7ee37
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tragicallyhip2009-12-04busmanBCS1t07.flac:df45c936f1d73f9fc1fe1a87f72769cf
tragicallyhip2009-12-04busmanBCS1t08.flac:2bcc3f56b9ca080d15660b12bdc355de
tragicallyhip2009-12-04busmanBCS1t09.flac:03724483019b02805f90dfd4fe4ec1a9
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tragicallyhip2009-12-04busmanBCS1t12.flac:bd3a67ac8f660bc3646f408c61a99a4d
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tragicallyhip2009-12-04busmanBCS1t21.flac:68594d4a2ded038d2ecc2fd5964d6d03

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You can use the URL below to download the torrent (you may have to login).

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The Hip Tracker

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Posted by: chris
12-13-2009, 03:32 PM
Forum: Non Tragically Hip Discussion
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<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.thestar.com/business/article/735096--geist-record-industry-faces-liability-over-infringement">http://www.thestar.com/business/article ... fringement</a><!-- m -->

Chet Baker was a leading jazz musician in the 1950s, playing trumpet and providing vocals. Baker died in 1988, yet he is about to add a new claim to fame as the lead plaintiff in possibly the largest copyright infringement case in Canadian history. His estate, which still owns the copyright in more than 50 of his works, is part of a massive class-action lawsuit that has been underway for the past year.

The infringer has effectively already admitted owing at least $50 million and the full claim could exceed $6 billion. If the dollars don't shock, the target of the lawsuit undoubtedly will: The defendants in the case are Warner Music Canada, Sony BMG Music Canada, EMI Music Canada, and Universal Music Canada, the four primary members of the Canadian Recording Industry Association.

The CRIA members were hit with the lawsuit in October 2008 after artists decided to turn to the courts following decades of frustration with the rampant infringement (I am adviser to the Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic, which is co-counsel, but have had no involvement in the case).

The claims arise from a longstanding practice of the recording industry in Canada, described in the lawsuit as "exploit now, pay later if at all." It involves the use of works that are often included in compilation CDs (ie. the top dance tracks of 2009) or live recordings. The record labels create, press, distribute and sell the CDs, but do not obtain the necessary copyright licences.

Instead, the names of the songs on the CDs are placed on a "pending list," which signifies that approval and payment is pending. The pending list dates back to the late 1980s, when Canada changed its copyright law by replacing a compulsory licence with the need for specific authorization for each use. It is perhaps better characterized as a copyright infringement admission list, however, since for each use of the work, the record label openly admits that it has not obtained copyright permission and not paid any royalty or fee.

Over the years, the size of the pending list has grown dramatically, now containing more than 300,000 songs.

From Beyonce to Bruce Springsteen, the artists waiting for payment are far from obscure, as thousands of Canadian and foreign artists have seen their copyrights used without permission and payment.

It is difficult to understand why the industry has been so reluctant to pay its bills. Some works may be in the public domain or belong to a copyright owner difficult to ascertain or locate, yet the likes of Sarah McLachlan, Bruce Cockburn, Sloan, or the Watchmen are not hidden from view.

The more likely reason is that the record labels have had little motivation to pay up. As the balance has grown, David Basskin, the president and CEO of the Canadian Musical Reproduction Rights Agency Ltd., notes in his affidavit that "the record labels have devoted insufficient resources for identifying and paying the owners of musical works on the pending lists." The CRIA members now face the prospect of far greater liability.

The class action seeks the option of statutory damages for each infringement. At $20,000 per infringement, potential liability exceeds $6 billion.

These numbers may sound outrageous, yet they are based on the same rules that led the recording industry to claim a single file sharer is liable for millions in damages.

After years of claiming Canadian consumers disrespect copyright, the irony of having the recording industry face a massive lawsuit will not be lost on anyone, least of all the artists still waiting to be paid. Indeed, they are also seeking punitive damages, arguing "the conduct of the defendant record companies is aggravated by their strict and unremitting approach to the enforcement of their copyright interests against consumers."

Michael Geist holds the Canada Research Chair in Internet and E-commerce Law at the University of Ottawa, Faculty of Law. He can reached at <!-- e --><a href="mailto:mgeist@uottawa.ca">mgeist@uottawa.ca</a><!-- e --> or at michaelgeist.ca

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All I can say is, "Wow."

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Posted by: andrewE
12-13-2009, 12:36 PM
Forum: Download & Trading Central
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Whenever I listen to the Hip's live shows, i always here rants or jams that end up as songs on future records, as well as early versions of songs. I thought it would be cool to make compilations that include jams/rants or early versions of released songs. So far, I have made three, one for fully completely, day for night and the henhouse. I am working on compilations for road apples, IBE(maybe) and Phantom powerand a next henhouse one but i thought i'd share the completed ones as soon as possible.
here are the links:
Fully Completely
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EDTI6ZIE">http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EDTI6ZIE</a><!-- m -->
DFN
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WWBX3545">http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WWBX3545</a><!-- m -->
TATH
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IWA18719">http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IWA18719</a><!-- m -->
if there are any problems with the songs let me know and i will try to solve them. I'm sorry that the songs are all mp3, i could only find flac versions for some of the songs
Enjoy!

Thanks to Chris and srb for helping my searches for some of the tracks.
*and if someone could hook me up with NOIS from 08-05-95 Orlando, that would be awesome. (I need it for my next henhouse compilation)

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Posted by: catechism
12-12-2009, 07:18 PM
Forum: Tragically Hip Discussion
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For all that crowd-surfing went out with acid-wash and possibly that haircut (or was that moshing?), I'm wondering about Gord's own history doing it. I know he crowd-surfed at the most recent Amsterdam show, and I think someone said it happened at one of the UK shows (though now I can't find who said that, or where, so maybe I made it up). Is it something he does at all regularly? I assume not, but I've only been to a handful of shows. On the other hand, my quick search through the forums here didn't turn up anyone mentioning it. Do you guys have thoughts on this vital matter?

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